原標題:耶魯大學流行病學和公共衛生學教授哈維-里希博士,醫學博士,與《作戰室》一起討論群體免疫的概念和針對COVID的疫苗接種。

內容:

this is the lead story, oh it must be the thing was an associated press story 

這是主要的消息,哦,它必須是新聞媒體關注的故事

is about a month ago, and Fauci had said that in order to get to herd immunity 

大約一個月前,福奇說過,為了達到群體免疫

we’re gonna have to get to, I think he said at the time 

我們必須達到,我想他當時說的是

eighty to nine percent people vaccinated 

達到80%到90%的人接種疫苗

and the only way mathematically we could do 

然而從數學計算上講,我們能做到這一點的唯一方法是

that is you’re going to have to start to vaccinate schoolchildren

你必須開始為學校的孩子接種疫苗

now we put that up, nobody else covered it, it was a buried lead, 

現在我們要重提這件事,沒有人報道它,它是一個被埋沒的線索

we went nuts on it, and they haven’t mentioned it since then,

我們認為這是非常重要的事,從那時起他們就沒有再提起

they’ve talked about now trying to get the …, 

他們現在談到了想要(給孩子接種疫苗)

because at the time you hadn’t even done any testing of the vaccine on school children 

因為在那時候,甚至沒有在學校的孩子身上做任何疫苗的測試

why? am I missing it? 

為什麼?我是不是遺漏了什麼?

because I know you followed this from a scientific point of view.

因為我知道你是從科學的角度來關注這個問題。

Why Are they not including, at least putting forward every day 

難道當他們每天談論群體免疫力的時候

when they talk about herd immunity, part of the calculation being …… the population that …… 

一部分被感染人群不被納入統計計算內嗎?

because it would seem to me that if you add who’s been infected, 

因為在我看來,如果加上被感染的人群

coupled with … I think they say forty percent of the American people have one jab,

再加上他們所說的,有40%的美國人打了一針

a (third) twenty five percent have two jabs, if you add that.

有25%的人打了兩針,如果你加上這些

aren’t we at? aren’t we mathematically at herd community right now?

我們現在不是在數字上達到群體免疫了嗎?

yes, we are as an average across the country

是的,如果視全國的平均水平,是達到了

but you have some states that had very little herd immunity to start with 

但是有一些州一開始的群體免疫基數就很小

and now the vaccinations have gotten them to the peak or just past the peak of the epidemic curve

現在接種疫苗讓他們達到或剛剛過了流行病曲線的峰值

and so it’ll take them quite a while to come down.

因此他們還需要一段時間時間來使曲線下降

The vaccination because it only cuts transmission by fifty to sixty percent and not by ninety percent.

因為接種疫苗只能減少50%到60%的傳播, 而不是90%

it’s not that strong to shut off the infection,

它沒有那麼強的能力來停止病毒蔓延 

so, yes it is adding to herd immunity

所以,是的,它加強了群體免疫

but it’s not enough to bring it down fast 

但還不足以快速降低病毒感染速度

and that’s the reason why Dr. Dauci is still espousing distancing and mask wearing and so on 

這就是為什麼福齊博士仍然要求保持距離和戴口罩等的原因

because he’s trying to say we need more than just the fifty to sixty percent benefit

因為他想說是,想要盡快降低感染率

in order to bring the infections down more quickly

僅僅減少50%到60%的傳播是不夠的

and so you have the states that have too little herd immunity from before 

因此,像有些以前群體免疫水平很低的州

that need more vaccination

就需要更多的疫苗接種

some states that have lots of herd immunity like I said, 

而像我說的,那些有大量群體免疫的州

North Dakota ,South Dakota, Tennessee and so on, that don’t need vaccinations 

如北達科他州、南達科他州、田納西州等,則不需要接種疫苗

because they already have a large amount of herd immunity.

因為他們已經有很高的群體免疫水平了

Their number of cases is small 

他們的病例數量很少 

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