[Opinion] Apply CIA Lie Detection Techniques to the Analysis of the Exchange Between Anthony Fauci and Rand Paul During Covid-19 Hearing

Author: MOS Translation Group – GBW

The US Senate held a Covid-19 hearing on May 11, 2021. There was a heated exchange between Senator Rand Paul and Dr. Anthony Fauci. Senator Paul accused Dr. Fauci of funding the gain-of-function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology and Dr. Fauci denied it. Was Fauci telling the truth? Assuming we don’t have any background information about the topic, let’s analyze the exchange only using the CIA lie detection techniques.

According to former CIA officer Susan Carnicero’s book “Spy The Lie”, the major clues that a person is not telling the truth include the following:

  • Failure to deny: An honest person will give you a straightforward answer. If a person fails to deny a claim or adds conditions and exclusionary qualifiers to his statements such as “not really” and “in most cases”, he is probably hiding something. Failure to deny can even be considered as an admission. In the 2012 case Kule-Rubin v. Bahari Group filed in the U.S. Southern District Court of New York, employees sued their employer for unpaid wages. The judge found that the employer’s “failure to deny” can serve as an admission of the employees’ allegations and ruled in favor of the employees.
  • Attempts to convince you instead of conveying information: Deceptive people will try to manipulate you to believe them. They often do this by offering more information to convince you that they are good people. For example, you discover that your company’s financial statements don’t add up. You ask your CFO if he cooked the book. If he replies with a long story of how he values his reputation and why he wouldn’t commit fraud, you probably have to look into the matter seriously.

Now let’s dive into the Covid-19 hearing. You can watch the 7-minute video (Exchange between Sen. Rand Paul and Dr. Anthony Fauci) of the exchange between Senator Paul and Dr. Fauci, and make up your own judgment before reading the following transcript with my comments. Rand Paul is a physician and has been a Senator of Kentucky since 2011. Dr. Anthony Fauci is the director of the US National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and the chief medical advisor to the president. Fauci has been in the US government since 1984.

Senator Rand Paul and Dr. Anthony Fauci

Paul: Dr. Fauci, we don’t know whether the pandemic started in a lab in Wuhan or evolved naturally, but we should want to know three million people have died from this pandemic and that should cause us to explore all possibilities. Instead, government authorities, self-interested in continuing gain-of-function research, say there’s nothing to see here. Gain-of-function research, as you know, is juicing up naturally occurring animal viruses to infect humans. To arrive at the truth, the US government should admit that the Wuhan Virology Institute was experimenting to enhance the coronavirus’ ability to infect humans. Juicing up super viruses is not new. Scientists in the U.S. have long known how to mutate animal viruses to infect humans. For years, Dr. Ralph Baric, a virologist in the US, has been collaborating with Dr. Shi Zhengli of the Wuhan Virology Institute sharing his discoveries about how to create super viruses. This gain-of-function research has been funded by the NIH. The collaboration between the US and the Wuhan Virology Institute continues. Dr. Baric and Shi worked together to insert bat virus spike protein into the backbone of the deadly SARS virus and then used this man-made super virus to infect human airway cells. Think about that for a moment. The SARS virus had a 15% mortality. We’re fighting a pandemic that has about one percent mortality. Can you imagine if a SARS virus that’s been juiced up and had viral proteins added to it to the spike protein if were released accidentally? Dr. Fauci, do you still support funding of the NIH funding of the lab in Wuhan?

Fauci: Senator Paul, with all due respect, you are entire entirely and completely incorrect. That the NIH has not ever and does not now fund gain-of-function research in the Wuhan Institute.

(Comment: Why didn’t Fauci answer “Yes” or “No”? Why did he use such a long sentence to say “no”? The later conversations will reveal that this statement is technically true, but it is not the whole story. )

Paul: Do they fund Dr. Baric?

Fauci: Dr. Baric does not do gain-of-function research and if it is, it’s according to the guidelines and it is being conducted in North Carolina.

(Comment: Fauci failed to deny that he funded Dr. Baric. Fauci failed to deny categorically that Dr. Baric did gain-of-function research.)

Paul: You don’t think it’s concerning a bat virus spike protein that he got from the Wuhan Institute into the SARS viruses through gain-of-function? That is not a minority because at least 200 scientists have signed a statement from the Cambridge working group saying that it is gain-of-function.

(Comment: Fauci shook his head while Paul was stating his questions. This is the only time that Fauci did so during the entire video. Fauci appeared to be irritated.)

Fauci: Well, it is not, and if you look at the grant and you look at the progress reports it is not gain-of-function despite the fact that people tweet that.

Paul: So you don’t have to report sending money to the Wuhan Virology Institute?

Fauci: We do not send money now to Wuhan Virology.

(Comment: Fauci repeated this line for the second time. Notice that he used the word “now”, which means it’s possible that he sent money in the past.)

Paul: Do we send money to Wuhan Virology? We did it under your tutelage. We were sending it through EcoHealth. It was a sub-agency and a subgrant. Do you support the money from NIH that was going to the Wuhan Institute?

 (Comment: This is the key. Fauci sent money via EcoHelath to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.)

Fauci: Let me explain to you why that was done. The SARS-COV-1 originated in bats in China. It would have been irresponsible of us if we did not investigate the bat viruses and the serology to see who might have been affected.

(Comment: Fauci didn’t deny that he gave money to EcoHealth. Fauci failed to deny that the EcoHealth money was going to the Wuhan Institute of Virology. He tried to convince listeners that he was a responsible scientist caring deeply about emerging infectious diseases instead of answering the question.)

Paul: Or perhaps it would be in China possible to send it to the Chinese government that we may not be able to trust with this knowledge and with these incredibly dangerous viruses. Government scientists like yourself favor gain-of-function.

Fauci: I don’t favor gain-of-function research in China. You were saying things that are not correct.

(Comment: Fauci interrupted Paul. “Favor gain-of-function” is a serious accusation.)

Paul: Government defenders of gain-of-function, such as yourself, say that Covid-19 mutations were random and not designed by man, but interestingly, the technique that Dr. Baric developed forces mutations by serial passage through cell culture that the mutations appear to be natural. In fact, Dr. Baric named the technique the “no-see” technique because the mutations appear naturally. Nicholas Baker in the New York Magazine said nobody would know if the virus had been fabricated in a laboratory or grown in nature. Governing authorities in the US including yourself unequivocally deny that Covid-19 could have escaped a lab but even Dr. Shi in Wuhan wasn’t so sure. According to Nicholas Baker, Dr. Shi wondered could this new virus have come from her own laboratory. Dr. Shi checked her records frantically and found no matches. “That really took a load off my mind,” she said, “I had not slept for days.” The director of the gain-of-function research in Wuhan couldn’t sleep because she was terrified that it might be in her lab. Dr. Baric, an advocate of gain-of-function research, admits the Institute of Virology’s main problem is the outbreak occurred in close proximity. “What are the odds?” Baric responded. Could you rule out a laboratory escape? The answer, in this case, is probably not. Will you, in front of this group, categorically say that the Covid-19 could not have occurred through serial passage in a laboratory?

Fauci: I do not have any accounting of what the Chinese may have done and I’m fully in favor of any further investigation of what went on in China. However, I will repeat again, the NIH and NIAID categorically have not funded gain-of-function research to be conducted in the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

(Comment: Fauci failed to deny “lab leak” or “serial passage in a laboratory.” He repeated the technically true statement for the third time despite the fact that Paul didn’t ask the money question.)

Paul: Do you support it in the US? We have 11 labs doing it and you have allowed it here.  We have a committee to do it but the committee is granted every exemption. You’re fooling with mother nature here. You’re allowing super viruses to be created with a 15% mortality. It’s very dangerous. I think it was a huge mistake to share this with China and it’s a huge mistake to allow this to continue in the United States, and we should be very careful to investigate where this virus came from.

Fauci: I fully agree that you should investigate where the virus came from, but again we have not funded gain-of-function research on this virus in the Wuhan Institute of Virology no matter how many times you say it, it didn’t happen.

(Comment: Fauci repeated the technically true statement for the fourth time despite Paul not asking the money question. )

Paul: There was research done with Dr. Shi and Dr. Baric. They have collaborated on gain-of-function research to enhance the SARS virus to infect human airway cells and did it by merging a new spike protein on it.  That is gain-of-function. That was joint research between the Wuhan Institute and Dr. Baric. You can’t deny it.

(Comment: Fauci can’t deny it.)

Moderator: Senator Paul, your time has expired. Dr. Fauci, I will let you respond to that. We need to move on.

Fauci: Excuse me.When?

Moderator: I will allow you to respond to that and then we’ll move on.

Fauci: Yeah, I mean I just wanted to say we, I don’t know how many times I can say it, Madam Chair, we did not fund gain-of-function research to be conducted in the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

(Comment: Again, for the fifth time, Fauci repeated his favorite line, but failed to deny that he funded the Wuhan Institute of Virology through EcoHealth.)

This is the end of the transcript. Can you tell if Fauci told the truth? Did Fauci fund the Wuhan Institute of Virology? Do you think the Wuhan Institute of Virology and the Chinese Communist government created Covid-19?

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